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By: yoz420

I don't really understand why you took it upon yourself to redefine the term duress. Duress refers to the psychological pressure generated by everything that a detainee in a military prison undergoes....

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By: ed\26h

Yoz420: Because of the situation in question, in theory, psychological shifts can occur. The conclusion is not solidly supported by this as it states a possibility and not definitive causation. When...

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By: amberglow

There had better be a scourging of the US military, from top to bottom.. It won't happen, and the Pentagon is investigating themselves. This is getting more and more disgusting day-by day, and god only...

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By: y2karl

From TPM: Some hand-written letters home from Sergeant Ivan L. "Chip" Frederick II. (PDF) Sy Hersh quoting Frederick: In letters and e-mails to family members, Frederick repeatedly noted that the...

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By: five fresh fish

There had better be a scourging of the US military, from top to bottom, or over both the short and long term the USA is going to get badly hurt on the international stage: its enemies will be ever more...

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By: furiousthought

If you don't feel like going through Salon, this is the job ad homonculus is talking about.

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By: chaz

young boys? women? If that turns out to be true I can't imagine how much worse it will get, and how much worse I will feel. I am really ashamed of our actions over there... we can't be so arrogant to...

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By: y2karl

FOXNews.com - The O'Reilly Factor - Interview - Inside Iraq's Abu Ghraib PrisonO'REILLY: All right. But there's a difference between being a poor administrator, as this -- your -- and knowing about...

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By: homunculus

One of the companies implicated at the Iraqi prison, CACI International, is today advertising on its Web site for interrogators for Iraqi prisons who will be "under minimal supervision."

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By: Ethereal Bligh

God, this is unbelievably depressing. I'm not to the anger stage, yet, but I'll get there. At the back of my mind are swirling all the ideas and analysis and intuition I normally bring to bear on such...

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By: amberglow

New Prison Images Emerge (WaPo-thurs.)

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By: David Dark

Inmate freed from Baghdad jail denies tales of torture COLIN FREEMAN AT ABU GHRAIB PRISON WHEN Ahmed Jassim was released from Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison yesterday, he expected nothing more than a hug...

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By: y2karl

From homuculus's link: It was hard to miss the irony this week. As we heard more about the mistreatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, we learned that Thomas Hamill -- the American contractor taken...

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By: y2karl

14 Prison Deaths May Be Tied to U.S. The Army had disclosed on Tuesday that its Criminal Investigation Division was probing 10 prisoner deaths and that two other deaths already had been ruled...

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By: homunculus

Human Rights Watch's Kenneth Roth says America's use of coercive interrogation techniques inevitably leads to nightmares like Abu Ghraib.

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By: y2karl

U.S. Troops Said to Mistreat Elder IraqiU.S. soldiers who detained an elderly Iraqi woman last year placed a harness on her, made her crawl on all fours and rode her like a donkey, Prime Minister Tony...

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By: yoz420

ed\26h But anyway, would this be a fair breakdown you your post? Because of the situation in question, in theory, psychological shifts can occur. When these shifts occur they are always due to extreme...

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By: Wulfgar!

David, you willfully insulted my beliefs, my family, my heritage and my character. You persist in arguing that those who don't follow your line of thought are somehow corrupt. You argue that those who...

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By: SpaceCadet

Please stop insulting me, Wulfgar! I'm taking great care not to stoop to your level. Would you like to add to the discussion, or just pursue a personal vendetta? Good response - I admire your...

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By: five fresh fish

In what must surely be the seventh sign of the apocalypse, I find myself agreeing with DD: he is taking great care to present the opposing side without being inflammatory.

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By: David Dark

Please stop insulting me, Wulfgar! I'm taking great care not to stoop to your level. Would you like to add to the discussion, or just pursue a personal vendetta?

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By: Wulfgar!

There are many many Iraqi blogs out there, with many many perspectives. If you care, get reading. As your horizons expand, so too will your understanding of the subtle differences among complex ideas....

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By: Wulfgar!

My bad, karl! You're a genius! No, he's not a genius; he just made you look like a dipshit. What's your point? Does it take a genius to do that? I'm not very convinced that it does. From the sarcasm, I...

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By: David Dark

My bad, karl! You're a genius! Tell Juan Cole I said hi.

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By: y2karl

And, actually, it's Alaa, not Salaam, who writes The Mesopotamian... Salaam--Peace--is how Alaa closes his posts. Which is not too hard to figure out if one reads closely enough. Well, if one reads,...

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By: y2karl

Iraqi PassportWednesday, May 05, 2004 When I was in Baghdad and discussing the Coalition, the US government and various members of the Coalition Provisional Authority my Uncle said: they are all...

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By: y2karl

And from a very pro-American Kurdish blog: Kurdo's World who learns from who ?!!! I am very disappointed and very sad to hear about the American abuse allegations. I have seen the pictures and they are...

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By: chaz

cool links y2karl and david dark. It is really interesting to hear directly from people over there. One note though, Mahmood is based (I think) in Baharain, not Iraq. Anyway thank you both for the good...

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By: meehawl

This is something that we Arabs never get to hear, an official apologising for a wrong done. Never! The higher up officials in their own fiefdoms are above error, almost at par with God, hence they can...

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By: David Dark

Mahmood: Iraqi blogger Omar of "Iraq the Model" (via Sissy Willis) voices some hope, and urges us to move on: I want to tell you that I felt great relief when I saw and heard the highest-ranking...

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By: David Dark

Salaam: Hi Friends, Of course the behavior at Abu Ghraib is terrible and I think everybody agrees; and most certainly the few who perpetrated these actions do not represent anybody but themselves. They...

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By: y2karl

Abbas Kadhim *Calling It Like It Is*Despite the shameful revelations of Nazi-like rapes and sexual assaults on Iraqi men and women, President Bush insisted in his weekly "radio spin" that the lives of...

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By: y2karl

I think they're smarter than you think they are. :)Iraqi SpiritTo be quite honest with you, I was not shocked by the emergence of this story; I have read so many stories of systematic torture being...

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By: ed\26h

yoz420: I can't believe you are seriously arguing this position. I presume you mean the position that I do not believe that a prisoner could never genuinely want to have sex with a guard. I don't think...

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By: Ethereal Bligh

Here, here, Laguagehat. I thought the exact same thing earlier today. I strongly suspect that American prisons are not, for the most part, out-of-control like this. But there is a connection, and...

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By: languagehat

Let's see how many members of the Hate American Crowd will fit inside a Metafilter thread.... Like this conduct wasn't taking place pre-liberation. Like it wasn't the rule, whereas now its the rare...

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By: insomnia_lj

I have read the journals of a handful of soldiers over in Iraq who use LiveJournal. I recently received a comment from a female soldier serving in Baghdad.... She said "I have seen pictures here that...

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By: amberglow

Boston Globe: Iraqis protest prisoner treatment in demonstration outside Abu Ghraib prison

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By: amberglow

riverbend:All anyone can talk about today are those pictures... those terrible pictures. There is so much rage and frustration. I know the dozens of emails I'm going to get claiming that this is an...

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By: David Dark

Omar: I was surprised when I saw that the reaction of Iraqis to the subject of prisoners abuse by some American soldiers was not huge as we all expected to see, even it was milder than the one in other...

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By: y2karl

Jailed Iraqis hidden from Red Cross, says US army The Taguba report described how "ghost detainees" were brought to the military police (MP) unit running several jails in Iraq by OGAs (military jargon...

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By: yoz420

ed\26h, I can't believe you are seriously arguing this position. Even if this hypothetical willing female prisoner got on her kness and, in perfect English, begged the prison guards to ravage her, it...

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By: ed\26h

What you've done there, insomnia_lj, is entirely ignore my point, preferring to post a straw man argument at the end of which you insult me. If you would like to actually address the statements I have...

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By: y2karl

From the pro-American blogger Zeyad of Healing Iraq: Now, regarding the disgusting images from Abu Ghraib that the whole world had witnessed in the last few days. They didn't come as a surprise at all,...

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By: insomnia_lj

"For this argument to work, you need there to be truth in the idea that a prisoner could never genuinely want to have sex with a guard." So, it's your assertion then that having sex with prisoners can...

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By: ed\26h

ilsa: Even if she "said yes" there is implied coercion because she was completely under the authority of her captors. Fearing what might happen later is no different than a clear and present gun...

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By: Goofyy

"Those who love America want it to be a shining, guiding light of righteous behavior, a living demonstration of how to Do It Right." from: five fresh fish Mr. Five Fresh Fish Sir, I salute you. Well...

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By: namespan

It's not a mispelling. It's got something to do with amberglow's irrational love for a certain manufacturer's PCs. Like this conduct wasn't taking place pre-liberation. Like it wasn't the rule, whereas...

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By: mr_roboto

Amberglow: you are so dellusional it's pathetic. Get some help. I agree with y6y6y6: this is very disappointing, Paris. You can, and should, do better than this. Christ, there's even a misspelling in...

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By: insomnia_lj

It's been more than two months since the release of Taguba's findings recommending the termination of employment and revocation of security clearance for a CACI contractor who abused Iraqi prisoners......

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